mariee

One of my guy friends told me that the women in Latin American countries see United States men as walking wallets. He told me that some of the women will date a gringo for a while just to gain his trust so they can take all his money and run. Is this true? What do you think?

chriss

It's true, it does happen, and this phenomenon is not limited to Panama.

craigguy

That's really horrible! I mean, it's bad enough for the girls to steal the money, but it makes it so much worse that they pretend to be the guy's girlfriend! Worse yet, they are giving latino women a bad reputation.

Kateryna

Come on, can be some of them but you"GRINGOS" guys needs to be smart get to know well ver well, i can tell there are many panamenian girls that like american guys not just to steal money, in my case, i have always worked for my own money, i dont need to live with someone else money......open your eyes.

MRWOOHOO

This is different than the US because why??

nuaeman

in the US thay make sure you marry them? so the scam has a chance to run for a whole lifetime :P

zhinghur

Its not confined to any particular country or so. It happens everywhere. I have been to more than 30 countries of the world yet and have seen and heard from the local people about these things. So, guys chill. Don't worry about these stuff , just have fun but be cautious.

kyle

to put it bluntly, alcohol breeds supidity...get my drift ??

cognitive

Hi , Mariee , if you started this sensible subject ,continue and tell the whole true not only half. 'Cause the other half is that some United States men see Panama girls as walking opportunities to have some sex for cheap or better for free ....
How many Us men have a genuine interest in develloping a lifetime relationship when they approach Panamanian girls ?
Let's face it: many want them only for sex ...no wonder why the girls have learned to respond the same offending way !!!

kyle

exactly...this way (i guess) everyone is happy....

MRWOOHOO

As far as gringo's cruising Panama for sex it is probably more common with guys that are in town for a few days or a week. The guys that move down here I have observed do get into relationships, get married, have kids, home-baked cookies, etc.

panama.woman80

Wow, there is a lot of issues and yeah thats true on both sides, men take advantage so women want to take advantage too! And the problem in panama is that there is TOO many women, there is like 3 women for 1 guy. I dont live in panama anymore I ve been living in the us for 4 years and I like it here there is not too much competition. Im the only latina haha(thats not mexican LOL) !! Anyways,... watch out for some of those panamanian women, some of them are trully crazy and interest in money but not all are like that, the good ones you wont find in a discotteque..Like me most good girls hang out at a bar where you can listen to bands play, have a few drinks and at the same time chat w/ friends.
Good luck!

cognitive

I wonder why is this situation ? Do Panamanians men migrate to other countries in search for a better life and that's why a shortage of them or simply there are more girls born every year than boys ?

soltero

The fact is, there are only slightly more women than men in Panama; check the census figures. http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/p...ma_people.html It probably just feels that way to women over 30 or 40 years, because the culture allows male codgers to go 20 or 30 or 40 years below their own age, and women do not have the same luxury, for the most part, in Latin America. Plus, semi-legal prostitution in Panama makes it easy for men to find dates, however fleeting. :-)

cognitive

Yes, you're right soltero , those statistics show that there is not actually such a difference . But from I've read it doesn't seem that way to women 30-40 years , on the contrary ,to foreign young men .
They seem to find in Panama more 2younger women interested in them whom to choose from than in their own country .
Also, I noticed that in generally more men than women are coming in Panama from other countries and the Panamanian girls prefer to have an American or Canadian ...or whatever other nationality boyfriend than a local one .

Who knows , maybe in the future things will change ,and in Panama will come more wealthy women in search for handsome 20 ,30 or 40 years below their own age men ,which they cannot afford to have in their own country .

As for prostitution , nowadays that's an occupation for both sexes, females and males, too.

panama.woman80

Well, soltero, in every country, men find themselves young women and I,as a woman, I tell you that lately young men are more and more interest in older women. As in for prostitution, it is disgusting that men would even think about dating prostitutes. I am totally against prostitution in any country.
I tell you what, the main reason why Panamanian women like men from other countries, other than Panama, I mean is more than obvious, most men are unattractive, short in height, they are infamous for cheating or they have no goals in life. I know what you are going to say, that there is more out there than just looks, but isnt it looks what attracts you to talk to someone in the first place?
Yes, the census shows how there is not too much difference in the number of men and women, but if you go out you will see more good looking females than men. The good looking Panamenian men are or either married, homosexual or dogs LOL. Now, I am not saying they are ALL like that, but the good and worthy ones are really hard to find.

panama.woman80

Well I tell you what, recently more men go other countries but its nothing major, its not like Mexico that everybody is trying to emigrate out of there. Check out what I wrote below.

soltero

OK, did you know that I was going to say that I agree with you? :-)

I have many Latina friends, and all say pretty much the same as you:
1) Norteamericanos and Europeans (N/Es) are more attractive (in the eyes of the Latinas; part of that is height, part of that is skin color, and part of that is personal grooming)
2) N/Es are less likely to cheat on them with another woman (at least so the Latinas think)
3) N/Es generally have a more enlightened attitude about women's rights
4) N/Es are more likely to be financially stable and goals-oriented (after all, if they can afford to spend a couple weeks in Panama, they've got more than the average Panameño)
5) N/Es are more likely to be interested in a woman for more than her looks, and the corollary, for more than just sex. I can't count the number of Latinas who like me (as a friend) simply because I'll talk to them, and because I am interested in their lives, their work, etc.
6) A smaller point is that many Latinas simply want to practice their English -- and chatting with a N/E is a good way to do that.

Personally, I am very happy about all of the above. I have made many friends in Panama, none of them ex-pats.

The only part of this phenomenon I *don't* like: In guidebooks and chatrooms, Panama is increasingly being portrayed as a paradise or candy store for horny male tourists. I have seen way too many loud, drunken, obnoxious tourists -- from all countries -- who behave as if they are feudal lords with local women: grabbing ass, trying to collect as many girlfriends as possible, generally running amok with little respect for the citizens (and little realization, I guess, of how stupid they look). I am an ex-pat hoping to live the rest of my life in Panama, and I don't like the potential reflection these boors cast on me. But, none of that is the fault of the Latinas -- other than the fact that they are sometimes too trusting.

cognitive

Good points , soltero , I would like to add one more . Women has a limited number of years when they may have children compared to men and that is why those of them that are quite serious and interested in having a family would be looking from an younger age for financial stable men (even much older than them and even if they didn't actually fall in love with them )that will make good caring fathers for their children and for themselves , too.

panama.woman80

Okay I think we are all on point now So tell me about the part that you say that Latinas "think" that N/Es men wont cheat hahaha so they are cheaters too? I tell you what a good latina will keep him too busy and tired to even think about cheating hahaha, I hope lol

MRWOOHOO

That makes two of us, lol.