Thread: Panama's Achilles Heel

Originally Posted by No-Non-Sense-Matt

Love Ayn Rand's work.

I agree Matt she is a literary genius. She has a unique perspective as she watched the transformation of Russia from Capitalism to destruction under Lenin. Govt confiscation of business and loss of personal freedoms gave her first hand experience that shaped her writing. It is astounding how quickly a society can move from successful Capitalism to destructive Socialism. As you can see from the American Redoubt post above and the number people who are now moving themselves or assets out of the U.S. that Galts Gulch is being sought in earnest. This is bad news for the Socialists as the wealth flees and their ability to print money diminishes they will run out of money and eventually fail. Remember Socialists are not producers they are takers.

Originally Posted by Felicity

Rothchilds, Vatican, Queen of England, Rockefellers, oligarchs and other family dynasties. They control the grand chessboard called planet earth.

You forgot to mention the Kennedy's, Clintons, George Soros, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, or the real enemy the private Corporation known as the Federal Reserve.

Originally Posted by EdBowers

Democracy is the problem. To be replaced by new phenomenon in 50-100 years.

Judge Dredd

Originally Posted by Felicity

Rothchilds, Vatican, Queen of England, Rockefellers, oligarchs and other family dynasties. They control the grand chessboard called planet earth.

Come on. I love a good conspiracy theory, but public employees, unions and union pension funds and special interest groups affect election results far more than wealthy individuals could ever do so, whether on the left or right. The Vatican hasn't told me what to do since I was an altar boy, the Queen has no power even in her own country, and the Rockefellers are dead and their fortunes disbursed to lazy heirs having no interest in anything by sailing.

Originally Posted by Felicity

Rothchilds, Vatican, Queen of England, Rockefellers, oligarchs and other family dynasties. They control the grand chessboard called planet earth.

And Col Sanders before he went teets up???

Sorry, Mike Myers joke (see: So I Married An Axe-Murderer)

Originally Posted by fleeted

You forgot to mention the Kennedy's, Clintons, George Soros, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, or the real enemy the private Corporation known as the Federal Reserve.

I do agree that Goldman Sachs and others have "gamed" the securities industry to their advantage at the expense of the individual investor, along with their co-consipirators (Congress, Fannie/Freddie and the Fed).

America has become a host where the Parasites of the world feed. They have been sucking her dry for decades. It is past time to end the Social handouts, foriegn aid, EPA regulations, and idiotic military operations. Break the backs of the Socialist unions, decrease regulation, tort reform and a few other common sense measures and we could start woo back manufacturing jobs. Stick a pipe in the ground everywhere there is oil and build new refineries. Export Gasoline and oil instead of importing. Sadly the Host will be bled dry and her carcass eaten by the public unions.

If I recall wasn't it Goldman who had the computer program so they could front run their own clients trades?

I'm moving to Panama....is the most stable of all Latin countries....America will hace to decide its future, Obama might be reelected once again & I believe, he does not like America too well.... Hopefully, some change will have to come & get the dollar back in track again.....All Latin American countries are going leftward...check Peru.....!!!!

Originally Posted by fleeted

If I recall wasn't it Goldman who had the computer program so they could front run their own clients trades?

I think you're right! But, then again I don't bet against them and bought their stock on dips down. I feel so cheap!

Originally Posted by Rok Alwar

I'm moving to Panama....is the most stable of all Latin countries....America will hace to decide its future, Obama might be reelected once again & I believe, he does not like America too well.... Hopefully, some change will have to come & get the dollar back in track again.....All Latin American countries are going leftward...check Peru.....!!!!

you are correct about the left ward swing of Latin America. Brazil has an ex bomb thrower for pres, Venezuela has Chavez, then there is Nicaragua, Bolivia, and of course Peru as you mentioned amongst others. While it may seem Obama will not get reelected by he has tremendous backing by the elite and he is a media darling. People believe what they hear on tv thats how he got into office to start with. The coming pitched battle over spending might propel him back into the Oval Office. There are now so many people sucking from the govt teet and more everyday that votes will pour in for Obama to keep the gravey train running.

Originally Posted by BalaBeacher

I think you're right! But, then again I don't bet against them and bought their stock on dips down. I feel so cheap!

Holding Goldman stock is one of the safest bets out there. There are so many ex goldman guys in govt they are insulated as the ultimate to big to fail.

Between you & me, I'm afraid is too late....USA is getting to be another third world country....Immigrants (legal & illegals) don't want to be part of the assimilation process or willing to work & pay back...with some exceptions among the Cubans in South Florida and a few Asians. Everybody wants a handout...& honestly, I see Obama back in 2012 & who knows,, maybe he will even amend the constitution for severals re-runs.... and we will have a new Obama Chavez-Castro....!!!!

Originally Posted by Rok Alwar

Between you & me, I'm afraid is too late....USA is getting to be another third world country....Immigrants (legal & illegals) don't want to be part of the assimilation process or willing to work & pay back...with some exceptions among the Cubans in South Florida and a few Asians. Everybody wants a handout...& honestly, I see Obama back in 2012 & who knows,, maybe he will even amend the constitution for severals re-runs.... and we will have a new Obama Chavez-Castro....!!!!

I don't think Obama can get the Constitution changed but as he has shown he can just ignore it. The way Obama can stay in office Chavez style is to have a disaster and then declare martial law and suspend elections until "order is restored". Of course order would not be restored and America could get bogged down into a civil conflict. Obama can become a defacto Socialist dictator. This could happen sooner than most people realize. Investment Guru Michael Ruppert issued a "July warning" this weekend. He makes a compelling argument for anyone who is still messing around in the stock market.
It is a must see video.
YouTube - We Have Until July at Latest Even a Caveman Can See It COLLAPSENET
Of course those savy at shorting stocks could clean up, that is unless they make shorting stock illegal. Heed his advice and stock up on essentials. Remember Panama is on the dollar and is subject to much of the pain the U.S. will experience.

BTW, a few more clips of the Atlas Shrugged movie have been released and posted to the website here..

Atlas Shrugged Movie - Gallery

Looks really good... some recognizable faces, but no stand-out names. Still, seems to be very high production value stuff. And seems to stick to the book very well. I will definitely be looking for it. Maybe I'll try to find it showing somewhere in Panama when I'm there in a couple of weeks.

Originally Posted by CerebralPrimate

BTW, a few more clips of the Atlas Shrugged movie have been released and posted to the website here..

Atlas Shrugged Movie - Gallery

Looks really good... some recognizable faces, but no stand-out names. Still, seems to be very high production value stuff. And seems to stick to the book very well. I will definitely be looking for it. Maybe I'll try to find it showing somewhere in Panama when I'm there in a couple of weeks.

Yes looks like a high quality production. My favorite scene is the hank Rearden comes home. What an ungrateful bunch of progressives. I like the fact that the acting talent is not well known left winger hollywood types. I could not watch Atlas Shrugged with Alec Baldwin playing Rearden. From the trailers I can tell this is destined to be an instant classic.

Demand for Atlas Shrugged is so high AMC theatres can't handle call volume. It has been expanded to over 50 major markets now for release. I just called our local theater and the girls said they don't have it for next weekend but it is being requested heavily and they are trying to get it. Many shows are already sold out in advance if you can believe it in places like New York City. The Left are calling the movie nasty names which is stirring up contraversy and interest.
Atlas Shrugged Fans Shock Theater Chains | Atlas Shrugged Movie | Rebel Pundit

Originally Posted by BalaBeacher

Come on. I love a good conspiracy theory, but public employees, unions and union pension funds and special interest groups affect election results far more than wealthy individuals could ever do so, whether on the left or right. The Vatican hasn't told me what to do since I was an altar boy, the Queen has no power even in her own country, and the Rockefellers are dead and their fortunes disbursed to lazy heirs having no interest in anything by sailing.

You must not have researched who funds all major social movements, who owns all the major corporations via proxies, who owns a large stake in the world's land mass, who creates the events of the world that moves the markets and determines election outcomes. That is the tip of the ice berg. It matters not to me what you believe. But please don't underestimate the grand deception. It is nothing to chuckle at.

Originally Posted by Felicity

You must not have researched who funds all major social movements, who owns all the major corporations via proxies, who owns a large stake in the world's land mass, who creates the events of the world that moves the markets and determines election outcomes. That is the tip of the ice berg. It matters not to me what you believe. But please don't underestimate the grand deception. It is nothing to chuckle at.

Rich people have more money than poor people. So, "rich people" are likely to own more "things." BFD What's so deceiving about that? Determine election outcomes? Come on. One person - one vote. Are they buying votes? No one's ever approached me about mine. What's the "grand deception"?

Originally Posted by BalaBeacher

Rich people have more money than poor people. So, "rich people" are likely to own more "things." BFD What's so deceiving about that? Determine election outcomes? Come on. One person - one vote. Are they buying votes? No one's ever approached me about mine. What's the "grand deception"?

Whomever controls mass media controls election outcomes. Rigged electronic voting machines aid with the influence.

The grand deception is something you will realize on your own by being more aware and questioning everything you are told. It is beyond any scope one could imagine and encompasses every aspect of our lives and belief systems. Such a discussion does not belong on this board.

If you want to talk about deception, the U.S govt is planning on stealing the federal pension retirements to fund the govt if the debt limit is not raised. This is money for people retirement and should not be touched. The govt will do whatever they want and this desperate act really shows just how bad the fiscal situation is despite the Socialists attempt to say the worst is over.
Treasury may borrow federal retirement funds in debt emergency - FederalTimes.com
They say if the money isn't paid back no big deal because that means things are in a crisis and federal retirements won't matter. This could have come straight from the pages of Atlas Shrugged.

Ok now that we have established that Panama is subject to increases in inflation here is what to expect very soon. Procter and Gamble raising prices up to 16% for common household products, everything from toilet paper to shaving cream to cleaning supplies.
P&G increases consumer prices on rising costs

Husqvarna is raising prices 15% on all products Husqvarna Announces Price Increase -- CHARLOTTE, N.C., April 4, 2011 /PRNewswire/ --

Look for increases in common clothing jeans, shirts etc.. as cotton is expected to go through the roof in light of more bad news.
Cotton - Monthly Price - Commodity Prices

Of course food is going sky high as china has now decided to buy food and burn it for fuel. I thought only the U.S. could be so stupid but it looks like it is catching on. Food inflation could be devastating to the poor.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/07/sc...a.html?_r=4&hp

High Oil is no secret and fuel costs are rising like crazy. This will add additional cost to the above mentioned increases due to shipping, fertilizer etc... Don't believe the reports from the Obama administration that inflation is very low. Many more People will be struggling to make ends meet very soon.

Originally Posted by Felicity

Whomever controls mass media controls election outcomes. Rigged electronic voting machines aid with the influence.

There is truth to this statement for sure. Every successful oppressor of people throughout time has controlled the media of the day. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Chavez, Castro, Obama, Lenin, etc... A perfect example happened this past week. The media covered the 38 billion budget negotiations and the impending govt shutown as if they were meaningful events. 38 billion is nothing in a 1.3 trillion dollar budget and does not even cover the interest that accumulated on the mational debt during the period they were debating the measley 38 billion. Now the talking heads are all claiming what a great victory this is for the American people. There is a reason the govt wants control over the internet and talk radio, they control the newspapers and television but they need to control the entire message. Trust me there will come a day when blaming one party or the other for the problems will no longer matter. In the past when people have been freezing to death in winter and scrounging for food or eating each other like they did during the siege of Stalingrad they no longer care who started it. The question becomes what are people doing to insulate themselves from the coming economic collapse?

To further illustrate how pointless the 38 billion budget deal was look at this! YouTube - Brother, Can You Spare A Trillion?: Government Gone Wild!
This really sums it up. Living in Panama insulates a person from the high taxes in the U.S. but costs of goods and services will rise because of U.S. policies.