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Old 01-09-2008   #31 (permalink)
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Zhinghur--that was my point;that U.S. police are hard to bribe, and would only be bribed by an ordinary person with an extraordinary amount of money.

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Oops, confused . Anyways cheers
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Old 01-09-2008   #32 (permalink)
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It depends on situation like whether if the offense is really serious, the person is a well known figure, might cause the lost of one's job or such. The $5000 is merely an expression in a way that you need a larger amount of money or equivalent value to bribe.
I didn't get you or what you mean.
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Old 01-09-2008   #33 (permalink)
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There is plenty of police corruption in the US and bribery is nothing new.
I agree their may be few, but i think its really hard to find those plenty even.
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Old 01-09-2008   #34 (permalink)
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Factbook : Corruption of Law Enforcement Officers

Michigan State University Libraries - Criminal Justice Resources - Police Corruption - Police Integrity

PBS - frontline: l.a.p.d. blues: the scandal: rampart scandal timeline

I just typed "United States police corruption" into Google and the list gets pretty long. Give me a choice, I would rather deal with a Panamanian officer any day.
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Old 01-21-2008   #35 (permalink)
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Ok, I give up but MRWOOHOO but still I would say I haven't seen this here. And also it doesn't happen in every state. But agree now, few cities tops,especially --

Atlanta, Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Los Angeles, Miami, New Orleans, New York, Philadelphia, Savannah, and Washington, DC.
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I agree, the police in my original hometown in Upstate NY seemed fairly honest. It was a real small town though and our biggest local crime was drunk-driving and cow-tipping. After moving to Florida my feelings for the police changed. Police don't have much hesitation to use their gun down here. There are also many stories in the local paper about police getting busted for reselling confiscated drugs, shooting their spouse, etc. In an apartment complex that I lived in Tampa, a resident that I met and was studying to pass the police exam was busted for selling coke. It is unfortunate to see.
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While there are U.S. police forces that may be corrupt, they don't seem to be bribe-able. When the police start accepting bribes from the public (ordinary citizens,) the undermine the trust and belief that the public has in them; when they re-sell confiscated drugs, they are already dealing with the criminal element (those who would buy drugs)--not the public at large.
Spousal abuse, while not limited to cops, does seem to be prevalent amongst those who like to have power over others, which police certainly do, and is only helped by the fact that they have access to weapons.

I'm going to have to go with Zhinghur on this one; when cops break the law they tend to do so in concert with already established criminal elements or past times such as the Mafia, drug lords, weapons smuggling, drug dealing etc. and not by accepting bribes from 'John Q. Public' to avoid speeding tickets.
Not only is the money not that great if one accepts bribes, but it also increases the likelihood of being 'found out.' Dealing in illegal substances would give you a ready-made audience used to breaking the law, and not talking about it.

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Old 04-26-2008   #38 (permalink)
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squatters

Will Panamanian police officer help a foreigner, who owns property in Panama, to evict a squatter?
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Squatters dont have the rights in Panama that they do in Costa Rica. You can purchase real estate with a title hear and have a title search done. It is similar to the USA. Just get a good attorney. I am sure Panamaoffshorelegal can give you some specifics (a free plug, lol).
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Old 04-29-2008   #40 (permalink)
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Police corruption in Panama is here alright but some times it helps you and some times it hurts you.

If you get a speeding ticket instead of paying $80 you can pay $20. But if somebody breaks in to your car do you think anyone is going after the guys who did it?
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If you get a speeding ticket instead of paying $80 you can pay $20. But if somebody breaks in to your car do you think anyone is going after the guys who did it?
And why do you think they won't be going after them?
On the contrary , I think they would hurry to find them and they will try even harder to catch the bad guys just because they want the tourists to feel safe there .
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It is relatively safe, petty theft is common. That is just how things work.
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Is it also usefull to pay a Tip / propina while visiting a lawyer to get the immigratinon papers for a little discount? Or even a medical doctor for getting an "O.K." to immigrate, if he would say f.e.: "Your eyes aren`t good enoghh..."
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Welcome to Latin America (wink)
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I have to admit the longer I live here in Panama the more I Distrust the police. The police have gotten really aggressive lately. On Monday night they had a Tumba Muerto blocked with police stops in both directions. My associate and I got to drive through it and even though they waved us along after they took a good look at us, we did not like the feeling. Even the locals mention how they do not like how "military" things are getting.
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Welcome to Latin America (wink)
In principle right. But Italy is also "wicked".

My experience in Latin America is: Argentina and Brazil > absolutly corrupt. Mexico ... hmmm... mot so bad as Brazil

But Chile for instance: "Clean".

Resaon: Country is developed and the police-men are getting a relativly high salary.

Does Police- emplyees are also good paid (salary)?
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Here in Panama they are not paid much so they are always looking to make a few extra dollars. With the large increase in police I am feeling more like an opportunity. I don't like it.
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I have recently become friends with a Canadian and he mentioned that 6 months ago he got pulled over and the police went through every inch of his car for about 30 minutes trying to find anything. The police stopped short of going through his pockets.
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Old 07-18-2008   #49 (permalink)
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The proper slang word for a bribe in Panama is MORDIDA (bite).
I grew up in California, and wouldn't have dreamed of bribing a cop. However, when I moved to Chicago in the 1960's, the police actually solicited bribes. It took me a couple of tickets before I learned this. In fact, I was going to have my license suspended. So I BRIBED THE JUDGE. A friend of mine was going to have his license revoked and serve a jail term for repeated DUI, but he got off by paying the judge $500.
It's tempting to pay police mordidas, but that makes you part of the downward-spiraling corruption problem.
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I met a well spoken, dressed, groomed, and educated Panamanian in his thirties the other day. He had been living in NYC for the past four years and just returned. After being here for two days doesn't he get asked for his passport outside of the Veneto Casino. He actually refused to show it and told the police that he did not see a sign at the airport saying he was "required" to carry it on him. The police threated to arrest him and bring the police captain. He told the police to "GO AHEAD"!! After a few minutes the police backed off. He never mentioned that he was from Panama but the police may have figured it out? Don't be surprised if the police want ID and a couple of bucks.
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